Showing posts with label Thai Names. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Thai Names. Show all posts

Monday, April 11, 2016

Thai-Light-Zone: Names And The Alphabet

I thank God on a regular basis that Thai uses a phonetic alphabet, and in general the Thai alphabet is very useful. More useful than the A, B, Cs sometimes.

Like the vowels. A, E, I, O and U (and sometimes Y) can be tricky, because each one can represent several different sounds. Thai has over twenty vowels, variously reported between twenty-four and twenty-eight, so it’s pretty much one for every occasion.

Thai names can be very, very tricky to pronounce, even if one knows the alphabet pretty well. The difficulty comes in the form of “implied vowels,” spaces where there is a vowel sound that is not represented by a printed letter. I came across a name while proctoring last week that makes a great example.

Thai letters are spoken as the sound, followed by an example. Such as “gaw-gai,” which is the sound of the letter followed by the Thai word for a chicken. The name went like this:

Saw, ngaw, waw, naw, waw, ngaw, saw. (That’s the sound components only.)

In English: SNGWNWNGS. I have a very good friend, American, whose family name has only a solitary A for vowels in the middle of five consonants. He gets teased about it sometimes. But Sngwnwngs must be some kind of record.

I am informed, and believe, that the name is pronounced “Saengwanwong.” So there are three of those implied vowels in there. There are problems for the un- or semi-initiated.

Problem number one: notice that the implied consonants in the name take three different values. In a word or name that you are not familiar with it can be a challenge to choose the correct vowel sound.

Problem number two: the S at the end is marked with the tone marker for “don’t pronounce this one,” or these ones in some cases. It’s there for reasons that are hard to explain. When I used to ask, the answer was usually, “it’s Sanskrit.” (Answered delivered after a period of eyes rolled towards the ceiling.) I don't ask anymore. 

The whole thing is very interesting. There are, for instance, six letters to cover the sound of the S, along with one or two combinations of letters that sound like the S, with neither of the letters being one of the S letters. You may recall me mentioning that the Lao have gone ahead and eliminated all of the S letters but two, which carry different tones. Communist governments can go ahead and do such things on their own motion; it will never happen in Thailand, where people just would not stand for it. We are Thai! We got this alphabet from the great King Ramkhamhaeng! Hands off! And I think that they are right, too. It’s easy enough to keep up with it all, especially if you learned the language from your parents.

Like I say, I’m just happy that there is an alphabet, not like Chinese where if you want to learn to read you must study over 5,000 pictograms. And only one alphabet, too, not like Japanese where every paragraph of the newspaper, if not every sentence, uses three different alphabets and about 900 Chinese characters that they still find indispensable.


If Thai were any more difficult, I could not have made the little progress that I have in learning it. 

Friday, January 11, 2013

The Waranya Miricle

Alert the media! Two consecutive test takers in the same row had the same name.

Americans don’t realize how much of a shock this was to me. There’s nothing surprising at all in America, “William . . . William,” “Mary . . . Mary,” it happens all the time. But it’s very different over here. The statistical likelihood of one Khun Waranya being followed by a second Khun Waranya is astronomical, probably on the same order as two people on line for lottery tickets being issued the same randomized numbers by the computer.


Thai Names

The most striking thing to a new teacher in Thailand is that all of the children seem to have different names. Beyond a few popular examples, Thai names rarely repeat. In my year teaching high school, I had sixteen classes of about forty-five students each and most of them had a unique name. There will always be a Tannapong, and probably a Somchai, and for the girls usually a Sutarat, maybe a Tiwaporn, but other than a very few names that could be called common people seem to have their very own name, made up just for them.

Waranya is not one of the more common names.

Thai names mean something. It reminds me of the names of America Indians, at least the names for Indians in literature or in the movies. You know, “Running Bear” or something. Thai names are usually words, or combinations of words, from either Sanskrit or Pali (another several thousand year old South Asian language). Names like Chadarat (“headdress of the province”), Tiwaporn (“loves the day”), Janntiwa (“moon in daylight”), and Barinyaporn (“loves certificates of higher learning,” no kidding).

Incidentally, I think that I’ve only ever met one Chadarat in eight years. Of Tiwaporns, I’ve known a couple. Janntiwa is my favorite name of all time, only ever heard it once. Barinyaporn, of all things, is fairly common, I’ve heard it maybe six times.

Until about a hundred years ago, Thais only had one name, like most Indonesians to this day. I think that it was a point of pride to come up with something catchy and unique. Family names came about when the king at the time decreed that all Thai families should pick a family name. He also decreed that every single family in Thailand had to pick a name that was unique to them, no duplications, honest, somebody was keeping track as the names were registered. So between those two things you will almost never find two Thai people with identical first and family names. Note that it is not common to name children directly after a relative, as happens all the time in America. We have middle names to differentiate us, otherwise we become a “Junior.” If a Thai family names a son after a father, or a daughter after a father for that matter, they change the name a little, like Chadarat naming a daughter Chadaporn (“loves the headdress”).

Don’t laugh at the “porn” thing by the way, not polite. Sometimes it becomes a problem. One of the test-takers today had a name change document, it’s pretty common for Thais to change their names. I’m sure that it’s like America, the law figures sure, go ahead, as long as you have any reason at all and the new name is not offensive. This young woman had been christened “Kittiporn,” and I suppose when she got older and found out what it meant in English she just said “hell, no.” I’m sure the judge didn’t even ask her why she wanted to change it.


The Magnitude of the Coincidence

My university has 850,000 students, and that’s not a typo. Eight-hundred-and-fifty-thousand individual students, currently registered. They all have a unique student number. The print outs that we use for the tests have the students in numerical order, nothing is alphabetical, with assigned seat numbers. So you can see, the probability of two consecutive students having the same name is virtually nil. And that’s just the first names. (Two students with identical first and family names would be actually, totally impossible.)

But it happened today! The first names anyway.  The Waranya miracle! I just about swallowed my gum.